Iskcon tells that Krishna is Supreme, IS IT TRUE?

Iskcon and its followers tells that Krishna is the only GOD and he must only be worshiped and they also say that all other deities are Anti vedic and slaves of their master Krishna.

They call Rudra ( Shiv ) the best among the worshipers of Krishna.

The funny part is that they say that Vishnu is an avatar of Krishna and it is not the other way.

First of all let us see Who Krishna was according to recorded History and Archeology

Historical period of Krishna

Shrimad Bhagvatam declares that Krishna arrives on Earth towards the end of the Dwapar Yug of the 7th Manvantar of the 1st Kalpa of the 51st year of the current Brahma.. rather precise timing there!!

Currently, we are in the last of the four Yugas called the Kaliyuga which, according to astronomical calculations, began on the 20th of February 3102 BCE. Now, this would place Krishna roughly around 3300-3200 BCE as the Bhagvatam states that Kaliyuga couldn't begin till Krishna was on the planet!

Fortunately, there is a large body of literary and archaeological evidence that can guide us towards an  approximate time-period for His presence. The earliest text to explicitly provide detailed descriptions of Krishna is of course the epic Mahabharat.

Since it is primarily the history of the Kurus (Pandavs and Kauravs), Mahabharat contains only that part of Krishna's life that had a bearing on the fate of Kurus. However, its crown jewel is the Bhagvad Geeta which transforms Krishna from a much adored and cherished Princely diplomat to the Supreme God Himself.

LETS GO TO GEETA NOW :

The speaker of Gita claims to be in birth and death

In Holy Gita Adhyay 4 Shlok 5 God , the narrator of Gita, is saying that oh Arjun! You and I have had many births.

This very evidence is given in Gita Adhyay 2 Shlok 12; where the narrator of Gita has said that oh Arjun! You, I and all these soldiers have taken birth before and will also take birth in future.

{It is clear from this that Brahm (the narrator of Gita) is also a perishable/Mortal God (Kshar Purush).}

Therefore in Gita Adhyay 15 Shlok 16-17, there is a distict description of the three Gods – two Gods are Kshar Purush (Perishable God – Brahm) and Akshar Purush (Imperishable God – Akshar Brahm ); but in reality imperishable/immortal is some other God, who is actually known as the Eternal Parmatma Parmeshwar (Supreme God).

TAT BRAHM IS GREATER THAN KRISHNA ? - GITA

In Gita Adhyay 7 Shlok 29 the speaker of Gita says

"Those who know my entire adhyatm/religious knowledge and all actions, those men strive to get rid of old age and death and they know that Brahm (tat brahm)."

Here the Speaker of Gita ji is referring to some other God. Therefore Arjun asks the speaker of Gita ji in Adhyay 8 Shlok 1 about "that Brahm" (tat brahm). Arjun questions Krishna ji that "who is that brahm you are talking about?"


Gita Adhyay 8 Shlok 1

"Oh Purushottam! What is that Brahm? What is Adhyatm? What is Karm? What is called by the name Adhibhoot, and who is said to be Adhidev?"

The speaker of Gita ji then answers in Adhyay 8 Shlok 3 and says it is "Param Aksharam Brahm".

The Speaker of Gita ji is referring to some other God as Param Akshar Brahm here.

In Gita Adhyay 8 Shlok 6, the speaker of Gita has said that it is a rule that in the final moments, while remembering whichever God (Brahm, ParBrahm, Purna Brahm), a devotee leaves his body, he goes to him (that God) only.

It is this same God "Param Akshar Brahm" (Supreme God), that the Speaker of Gita ji is asking Arjun to go in to refuge of in Adhyay 18 Shlok 62 and then again in shlok 66.

Gita Adhyay 18 Shlok 62

Oh Bharat! You, in every respect, go in the refuge of only that Supreme God hidden in the darkness of ignorance. By the grace of that Supreme God, you will attain the supreme peace and the everlasting – Sat lok (place-dhaam).

The discussion proves the following things

1. The narrator of Gita is saying to Arjun that if you worship me with one mind then you will achieve me but if you want to achieve eternal place and supreme happiness then go in to the refuge of that Supreme God.

2. The narrator of Gita is in birth and death.

3. The narrator of Gita is also in the refuge of that Supreme God.(Adhyay 15 Shlok 4)

IS KRISHNA VEDIC ???

There is not atleast ONE single reference of Krishna in vedas and Iskcon calls Rudra , "Anti vedic". 

IS THERE ANY TRUE BEHIND IT ???

LET US SEE IN DETAIL WHAT VEDAS AND UPANISHAD TELLS ABOUT RUDRA 

“imā rudrāya sthiradhanvane ghiraḥ kṣipreṣave devāya svadhāvne |

aṣāḷhāya sahamānāya vedhase tighmāyudhāya bharatā śṛṇotu naḥ |” (RV 7:46:1)

“To Rudra bring these songs, whose bow is firm and strong, the self-dependent God with swiftly-flying shafts,The Wise, the Conqueror whom none may overcome, armed with sharp-pointed weapons: may he hear our call”.

“śreṣṭho jātasya rudra śriyāsi tavastamastavasāṃ vajrabāho |

parṣi ṇaḥ pāramaṃhasaḥ svasti viśvā abhītī rapaso yuyodhi ||” (Rig Veda 2:33:3)

“Chief of all born art thou in glory, Rudra, armed with the thunder, mightiest of the mighty. Transport us over trouble to well-being repel thou from us all assaults of mischief”.

“sthirebhiraṅghaiḥ pururūpa ughro babhruḥ śukrebhiḥ pipiśehiraṇyaiḥ |

īśānādasya bhuvanasya bhūrerna vā u yoṣad rudrādasuryam ||” (RV 2:33:9)

“With firm limbs, multiform, the strong, the tawny adorns himself with bright gold decorations. The strength of Godhead ne’er departs from Rudra, him who is Sovran of this world, the mighty”.

“sa hi kṣayeṇa kṣamyasya janmanaḥ sāmrājyena divyasya cetati |

avannavantīrupa no duraścarānamīvo rudra jāsu no bhava ||” (Rig Veda 7:46:2)

“He through his lordship pervades in all things and beings on the earth, on heavenly beings through his high imperial sway (controlling influence or power). Come willingly to our doors that gladly welcome thee, and heal all sickness, Rudra., in our families”.

In RV 7:46:2 Rudra is called as the the one who “rules” on all celestial beings through his imperial power. In RV 2:33:9 Rudra is referred as the Godhead whose strength doesn’t leave (depart from) him. In RV 2:33:3 he is called as “mightiest of the mighty” not just mighty or mightier. In RV 7:46:1 Rudra is called as the God who is “self dependent” and “none can overcome Rudra”.

As he is “self dependent”, he doesn’t need to derive strength from anyone for his work; as he is the “Godhead whose strength never departs from him”, he doesn’t require to borrow strength from anyone; as he “pervades/rules over the gods by his imperial power” which god can be an exception to this? as he is the “mightiest of the mighty”, who else can donate him strength?

Then RV 7:40:5 says “Rudra derives his Rudra strength from Vishnu”. 

ISKCON takes this hymn as there best weapon to attack Shaivas

Its say usually used term , " Derive the energy", it usually used with spouse of a God. For example, Brahma derives strength from Saraswati, Vishnu derives strength from Lekshmi and Rudra derives strength from Parvathi ( Uma )

“yaa umaa saa svaya.n vishhNur” (Rudra Hridayopanishad 5)

“Uma Herself is in the form of Vishnu”

The above hymn from Rudra Hridayopanishad tells that Uma took the form of Vishnu. The North Indian mysticism believes that Vishnu himself is a form of Aadi Shakthi. Rudra is also sometimes called Vishnuvallabhan ( Husband of Vishnu ).

“Ardha vapusha baryatwam, Gonithwam sakkhitha…” (Shivananda Lahari Para-82)

“Lord Vishnu occupied half your body, Became transformed to be your wife (PARVATI), Became a boar to search for you, Became your lady friend to serve the nectar (MOHINI)”

The Taittirya Aranyaka(10:24:1) of Yajur Veda clearly says Lord Rudra is ‘Veda Purusha’ (purusho vai rudrah). 

And none is superior to Purusha.

“vishvatashchaxuruta vishvatomukho vishvatobaahuruta vishvataspaat.h |

saM baahubhyaa.n dhamati saMpatatrairdyaavaabhuumii janayan.h deva ekaH |” (Sve. Upa. 3.03)

“His eyes are everywhere, His faces everywhere, His arms everywhere, everywhere His feet. He it is who endows men with arms, birds with feet and wings and men likewise with feet. Having produced heaven and earth, He remains as their non—dual (deva ekaH) manifester”.

“sarvaanana shirogriivaH sarvabhuutaguhaashayaH |

sarvavyaapii sa bhagavaa.nstasmaat.h sarvagataH shivaH |” (Sve. Upa. 3:11)

“All faces are His faces; all heads, His heads; all necks, His necks. He dwells in the hearts of all beings. He is the all—pervading Bhagavan. Therefore He is the omnipresent and benign Lord”.

“yasmaat.h para.n naaparamasti ki.nchidya smaannaNiiyo na jyaayo.asti kashchit.h |

vR^ixa iva stabdho divi tishhThatyeka stenedaM puurNaM purushheNa sarvam.h |” (Sve. Upa. 3:09)

“This whole universe is filled by this person (purusha-Rudra), to whom there is nothing superior, from whom there is nothing different, than whom there is nothing smaller or larger, who stands alone, fixed like a tree in the sky”.

Lord Shiva himself says:-

“paramo.asmi paraatparaH” (Maitreya Upa. 3:10)

“I am the supreme, greater than the great”.

Rudra Hridaya Upanishad and Shivananda Lahari says Vishnu and UMA are of same form (they are same). Sharabha Upanishad and Rudra Hridayopanishad, Rig Veda.IX.96.5 says Vishnu is Shiva’s and Uma’s son. Sri Rudram says Shiva exists as Vishnu. Hence comparing these points we can conclude here that Vishnu is Shiva’s form (son) having UMA’s features hence UMA and Vishnu are shown as identical but since Uma manifested as Yashoda’s daughter Yogamaya as a ssiter of Krishna she is popularly called as Vishnu’s sister. 

Shiva-Shakti are non-dual. They created Vishnu, so Vishnu is Uma’s son as Annapoorna Astottara Shatanamavali also calls her as, “Vishnu Jananyai Namah”.

 Rudra is “mightiest of the mighty (Rig Veda 2:33:3)”, this is the reason why he is “self-dependent (RV 7:46:1)”, this is the reason why he is “the godhead whose strength doesn’t depart from him (RV 2:33:9)”, this is the reason why he is able to “rule on all celestial gods with his high imerial power (Rig Veda 7:46:2)”.

HOPE THE ABOVE DISCUSSION TELLS WHO IS VEDIC AND WHO IS NOT 

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Arjun : Lord, am not able to kill my relatives and cousins
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INJUSTICE THROUGH ART

A newspaper cartoon from widely read Malayalam Newspaper
The cartoon protrates Yama dev, Lord of Narak as Vigilence. The base of Shivlinga ( yoni ) as the Corrupted money of the bar case and the face of the CM of kerala, Ummen Chandy as the Shiv linga. It also shows corrupted minister Maani as Markandeya.

Thus insulting the glory and purity of that glorious episode in the puranas.

The organisations described the cartoon as a "flagrant disrespect and denigration of our glorious Hindu faith",The Star reported on Monday.

The cartoon, carried on Shapiro's website on Sunday and in the Sunday Times, shows Lord Ganesha holding a cricket bat and money, while Cricket SA (CSA) chief executive Haroon Lorgat, tied up on an altar, is about to be stabbed as a sacrifice to him by two CSA officials.

The cartoon refers to the CSA agreeing to suspend Lorgat for the duration of India's tour to South Africa after its hand was apparently forced by the Board of Control for Cricket in India.

According to the newspaper, the South African Hindu Dharma Sabha was expected to lay a formal complaint on Monday with the Commission for the Promotion and Protection of the Rights of Cultural, Religious and Linguistic Communities.

Dharma Sabha president Ram Maharaj told the Star he had been inundated with calls from angry Hindus. Maharaj reportedly said they wanted Zapiro to do what was right, and were willing to accept an apology.

The newspaper reported that South African Hindu Maha Sabha president Ashwin Trikamjee had said the cartoon showed a lack of respect for religious beliefs.

South African Tamil Federation head Pauline Naidoo echoed his sentiments.

Gods made fun in social media and internet....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-hYq3Y9IoU

This video insults and makes fun of God Shiva, who is in the form of Nataraja, The lord of Dance. This particular form of Mahadev is accepted widely and is seen in front of NASA institute as they understood the real meaning of the dance step. The video shows that God is not able to catch a fly with his all arms at last falling out of the frame he stands. 

We are insulted like this just because we dont react, there not atleast a ban on this video it is available in youtube in many channels still. We tried flaging and reporting many but no use. Please help us remove this video which insults our culture. 

MEDIA freedom ???

Media freedom and rights are moving to such a uncontrolable situation in which they report the opposite of what is really happening. They dont care for minor newz in their greedy hunt for interesting newz. God knows when the media men themselves will turn into criminals to make news.

Now a days, Media is interested in spreading news with some masala of themselves which will lead to great issues in future so that they can show it as different episodes of a serial. If modern world woman are addicted to serials then men are addicted to such News.

Special t, News special, counter point etc... who gave usual media to handle law. Do know when they will really hang people to death even though they are literally doing it now.

Since last few days, I have seen quite a few jokes on Narendra Modi i's foreign visits.... and all people are curious why Narendra Modi visits so many countries, and what is India achieving from it. .

Narendra Modi is no greenhorn in politics and statecraft. . . He has already achieved more for Gujarat in his tenure as CM there than any Indian state ever had. . . Few hidden (because the main stream media will purposely ignore them) achievements are given below: . .

1. BJP Govt. convinced Saudi Arabia not to charge “On-Time Delivery Premium charges" on Crude Oil – Young Petroleum Minister Dharmendra Pradhan & External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj sealed the deal. Saved the country thousands of crores... . .

2. India will build 4 Hydroelectric power stations + Dams in Bhutan (India will get lion's share in Green energy that will be produced in future from these projects) . .

3. India will build Biggest ever dam of Nepal (China was trying hard to get that) – India will get 83% Green energy produce from that hydro power station for free – in future. . . . .

4. Increased relationship with Japan and they agreed to invest $ 30 Billion in DMIC (Delhi – Mumbai Investment Corridor). That's Rs 200,000 crores by today's exchange rates..... . .

5. Increased strategic relationship with Vietnam and Vietnam has now agreed to give contract of Oil exploration to ONGC-Videsh (UPA was not ready to take this at all because they were worried about China – and getting into a conflict of interests on south China sea). The UPA had always been on the backfoot about every aspect of foreign policy. . .

6. Increase Oil Imports from Iran, despite the ban by USA. . Iran agreed to sell in Indian Rupees and it saved our Forex, not just for now, but protected India from future currency fluctuations. India also gets to build “Chabahar” port of Iran, encircling Pakistan. Because we well have exclusive access for our Naval ships in this port. . .

7. India – Australia (NaMo is first PM to visit Australia after 28 yrs), despite Australia being a major supplier of Coal & Uranium. . . NaMo was able to convince Tony Abbott and now Australia will supply Uranium for our energy production. . . .

8. China leaning President Rajapakse lost elections in Sri Lanka – Remember UPA lost “Hambantota” port development – read latest report of CIA, where they mention RAW has played a major role in power shift of Sri Lanka. Now Modi has confirmed he is visiting Sri Lanka in April. And Sri Lanka has backed out of Chinese contract and shifted to Indian project managers. . .

9. With China, as Trade Deficit was increasing, NaMo forced their hand. Anti-Dumping will come soon so China will invest heavily into India. – China has already committed $ 20 billion Investment in India. That's nearly ₹140,000 crores. . . .

10. On Security – I think adding Ajit Doval to his team is the best decision by NaMo. See the recent tie-up with Pentagon, Israel & Japan. . . Remember I. K. Gujaral as PM stopped RAW’s offensive operations in foreign countries. . Now see how we stopped the Terror Boat and listen to his words … “Any Mumbai like attack from Pakistan and Pakistan will lose Baluchistan!" That's the language of deterrence that I want to hear as an Indian. We won't hit first, but if you do, we surely won't turn the other cheek.... . . .

11. India approved the border road in the NorthEast and around India- China border – Remember just because of China’s opposition, the ADB (Asian Development Bank) didn’t give us funds during UPA regime and UPA held that file under “Environment Ministry control – Remember the infamous “JAYANTHI TAX "? No one bothered about the disastrous effect on our armed forces. . . .

12. India managed to bring back 4,500+ Indians from War zone in Yemen and also brought foreign nationals of 41 different countries, which put India’s name onto the highest platform globally in conducting that rescue mission – PM Narendra Modi specially talked to the new Saudi Arabian king Salman and told him to allow Indian Airforce planes to fly – as Saudi Arabia was attacking on Yemen and Yemen skies was declared NO-FLY Zone: thanks to this we got an assured clear window of a few hours and guys guess who coordinated this? Ajit Doval, Sushama Swaraj and Gen V K Singh. All in person.... When was the last time you ever heard of ministers involved personally in such efforts that didn't fetch thousands of crores?? Guess the religion of those rescued?? But it isn't secular to mention that most of those rescued from Yemen or earlier from Iraq weren't Hindus at all.. . .

13. India’s Air defense was getting weaker by the day, UPA was very happy to let it happen despite repeated specific inputs from the armed forces, NaMo renegotiated Rafale fighter Jets deal with France personally and bought 36 Jets on ASAP basis. At better than rack rates. No middlemen, no commissions... . . .

14. For the first time after 42 yrs Indian Prime Minister visited Canada not to attend some meeting but as a specific state visit, in a Bilateral deal, India was able convince to Canada to supply Uranium for India’s Nuclear reactors for next 5 years. It will be of great help to resolve India’s Power problems. . . .

15. Canada approves visa on arrival for all Indian tourists. . . .

16. Till recently we were exclusively buying Nuclear Reactors from Russia or USA and it was much like beggar kind of situation because they were worried about usage of Nuclear reactor for some other use. So only what they opted to give us, we could get. . Now Narendra Modi was able to convince France and now France will make Nuclear reactors with the latest technology in India. On MAKE IN INDIA efforts.. with collaboration with an Indian company as a partner. . .

17. During 26th Jan. visit of Barack Obama, NaMo convinced USA to drop rule of Nuclear fuel tracking and sorted out Liabilities rules which now open the gates for next 16 Nuclear power plant projects. . . . Isn't this good enough to improve the lot of India?? .

Where is Dharma ?

Zeeshan Khan's job app was rejected as the private firm in question hired only non-muslims. It was a private firm... here we show you examples from all over India where private to public job openings, apartment listings etc. are mentioned "muslim/christian" only. Why these were never in the news?

Manmohan Singh said once "Muslims have the first right to this countries resources". Any outrage?

Tax payer run institutions like Aligarh Muslim University never had a Non-Muslim Vice-Chancellors, Maximum teachers are Muslims. Same for St. Stephens - where staff were coerced to convert as per some allegations in the past.

Why are they not national news?

Above all, the Minority commission of India, formed under UPA-I has a rule that it can't be headed by a HIndu. This assumes a Hindu can't do good to minorities. Is this not the same ideology that lead to muslims demanding 1/3rd of India for themselves (East and West Pakistan) in 1947?

 Muslim girl gets a new life

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Prime Minister Narendra Modi has given a 12-year-old Muslim girl from Agra, a reason to smile amid her hardships by ensuring that she gets treated free of cost.

Taiyaba suffers from the congenital heart disease which causes abnormality in the structure of the heart. Taiyaba’s father, a daily wage worker at a shoe factory, earns just enough to either bear the expenses of her daughter’s medicines or look after his family of five.

As it was hard for Taiyaba’s poor parents to afford her treament, she decided to take the matter in her own hands and wrote a letter to PM Modi asking for help.

To her shock, PMO wrote back asking for details. After that, PMO directed the Delhi government to ensure that the girl receives proper treatment. The Delhi government in turn has directed the Guru Teg Bahadur hospital to begin Taiyaba’s treatment free of cost.

Christian missionaries ??? 

NOT A NATIONAL NEWS???